- —Thing, regarding the Giant Octopus
Appearing in "What If Spider-Man Had Joined the Fantastic Four?"
Featured Characters:
- The Fantastic Five (First appearance)
- Mr. Fantastic (First appearance)
- Thing (First appearance)
- Human Torch (First appearance)
- Invisible Girl (First appearance)
- Spider-Man ⏵ (First appearance)
Supporting Characters:
- J. Jonah Jameson (First appearance)
- Aunt May (First appearance)
- Uatu the Watcher
Villains:
- The Chameleon (First appearance)
- The Vulture (First appearance)
- Red Ghost (First appearance)
- Super-Apes (First appearance)
- Namor the Sub-Mariner (First appearance)
- Hypno-Fish
- Giant Octopus
- The Puppet Master (First appearance)
Other Characters:
- NASA (Mentioned)
- John Jameson (Mentioned)
- Fantastic Four (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Thing (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Mr. Fantastic (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Invisible Woman (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Human Torch (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Spider-Man (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Thing (Earth-721) (Vision or hallucination)
- Invaders (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Captain America (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Bucky (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Namor the Sub-Mariner (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Human Torch (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Toro (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Avengers (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Iron Man (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Captain America (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Vision (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Scarlet Witch (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Beast (Earth-616) (Vision or hallucination)
- Squadron Supreme (Earth-712) (Vision or hallucination)
- Hyperion (Earth-712) (Vision or hallucination)
- Whizzer (Earth-712) (Vision or hallucination)
- Dr. Spectrum (Earth-712) (Vision or hallucination)
- Lady Lark (Earth-712) (Vision or hallucination)
- Golden Arrow (Earth-712) (Vision or hallucination)
- Spider-Man (Earth-7642) (Vision or hallucination)
- Superman (Earth-7642) (In an illusion or vision) (Behind the scenes)
- Killraven (Earth-691) (Vision or hallucination)
- Deathlok (Earth-7484) (Vision or hallucination)
Locations:
- Earth-772 (First appearance)
- Earth (First appearance)
- United States of America (First appearance)
- New York (First appearance)
- New York City (First appearance)
- Manhattan (First appearance)
- Baxter Building (First appearance)
- Manhattan (First appearance)
- New York City (First appearance)
- New York (First appearance)
- Sub-Mariner's Domed Undersea Villa (First appearance)
- United States of America (First appearance)
- Moon (First appearance)
- The Blue Area of the Moon (First appearance)
- Earth (First appearance)
Items:
Vehicles:
- The Fantasti-Car
- The Puppet Master's Submarine
- The Fantasti-Sub
Synopsis for "What If Spider-Man Had Joined the Fantastic Four?"
In this landmark first issue we are greeted by Uatu the Watcher, who explains to the readers that there exists a number of alternate realities. In each alternate reality, there is a divergence from what what has happened and what could have happened.
The Watcher focuses on an alternate reality in which Spider-Man attempts to join the Fantastic Four as a solution to his money problems. Originally, Spider-Man is turned down by the group, but in this alternate reality they allow Spider-Man to join causing the birth of the Fantastic Five.
With Spider-Man on the team, his association with the Fantastic Four grants him acceptance from the population unlike his mainstream counter part who is labeled a menace by the Daily Bugle.
The Fantastic Five begin taking on a number of villains, including the Vulture and the Red Ghost and his Super-Apes. While Mr. Fantastic, Thing, Human Torch and Spider-Man go on these adventures, the Invisible Girl often stays behind to monitor things from base.
Sue is eventually seduced into meeting Namor the Sub-Mariner who is under the control of the Puppet Master to get revenge on the Fantastic Five.
- —Ben Grimm, while Sue held her breath under water
After freeing Sue and Namor from the Puppet Master's control, Sue decides that she loves Namor and wants to stay in his kingdom with him, after months of neglect from the Four thanks to Spider-Man's inclusion in the group. Accepting her request, Namor conditions her body so that she can breath underwater (a process that is apparently permanent) and the remainder of her former comrades leave in defeat, Spider-Man regretting to have joined the group.
Notes
- Cover art: Modifications by Romita. Earth-721
- From the Watcher's introduction on parallel worlds we see: The world where Reed Richards became the Thing instead of Ben Grimm was first seen in the story "What Mad World?" in Fantastic Four #118, the Fantastic Four fighting along side the Invaders is from Fantastic Four Annual #11/Marvel Two-In-One #20, the Avengers battles with the Squadron Supreme first happened in Avengers #85-86 but this appears to be their most recent combat with them at that time in Avengers #141-144, Spider-Man's battle with "a certain colorfully-clad alien" is a nod to the first Marvel/DC Comics cross-over in Superman vs. the Amazing Spider-Man #1, Killraven's world first seen in Amazing Adventures (Vol. 2) #18; and Deathlok's world which appeared in Astonishing Tales #25.
- The Watcher's narratives of the origins of the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man occurred in Fantastic Four #118, and Amazing Fantasy #15 respectively.
- The beginning of the story shows Peter Parker getting the idea of joining the Fantastic Four in order to earn a living. This is parallel to the events of Amazing Spider-Man #1. In the original story, the Fantastic Four turn Spider-Man down, causing him to flee. Later he gets framed for a crime that the Chameleon would commit and be branded a menace by J. Jonah Jameson following a failed space flight by his son and astronaut, John Jameson.
- The final battle of the Fantastic Four before Spider-Man joining the group was when the team traveled to the south-west to battle the Hulk. This is a reference to the first battle between the Thing and the Hulk in Fantastic Four #12.
- The Chameleon's plot in this issue is foiled by Spider-Man joining the Fantastic Four. Originally in Amazing Spider-Man #1, the Chameleon disguised himself as Spider-Man in order to frame the wall-crawler for the theft of some plans that the spy would sell to the communists.
- An additional divergence in this reality is the battle against the Fantastic Five and the Vulture. The Vulture originally appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #2 and battled Spider-Man alone. After many repeat attempts to defeat the Vulture, Spider-Man eventually created a device that counter-acted the magnet-powered flying harness the Vulture used.
- The Fantastic Four originally battled the Red Ghost on the moon in Fantastic Four #13, the difference being that in the original story, the Invisible Girl traveled to the moon with the rest of her teammates and battled against Red Ghost and his Super-Apes.
- The Fantastic Four did end up battling a Puppet Master-controlled Namor in Fantastic Four #14. However in the original story, Sue wasn't tricked into meeting Namor and taken captive until after the Red Ghost mission (since Sue went to the moon with the team in the mainstream reality). The battle with Namor is almost entirely the same, save for the fact that in this version of the battle Sue decides to stay with Namor at the end of the story.
- This reality and it's version of the Fantastic Five are seen again in What If? #21.