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Nausiated

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  • Bio Stand-Up Comedian from Ottawa, Canada. Long time contributor at the Marvel Database Wiki. Banned in China.
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  • Hey, I've been moving all the Resident pages and I found a couple of characters had the link to the resident page removed (see this edit). Can I ask why?, If the character wasn't then removed from the corresponding resident page. Did you do this for everyone of these you have found? If so which comic series' so I can go back and fix all this rather than having to back through every single character manually to confirm.

    I understand your feelings on character relevancy but you didn't remove the character entirely so it feels like an unfinished edit, since the only way people will find those characters is from the comic themselves. I ask in future you either don't remove the link, or if you feel like you have to, remove the character from the index as well

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    • It was less my issue with minor characters, it was more culling a red-link or a link that didn't actually go anywhere (In that it would go to the city page, but there wasn't an actual corresponding hash link)

      At lot of those pages were absolutely mangled by DuellenteMagic going overkill in the appearance section. I picked up on his pattern of creating links that went nowhere and got fed up of checking and just removed the links. The appendix approach is a the census approach among the other admins so linking to City Name#Resident Name seems like a redundancy anyway, especially when the majority of them weren't even there to begin with. (I've gone through thousands of Spider-Man comics that Duellente went through, it was very daunting since all he was doing was adding links and tags and no actual content)

      I left them as plain text until the appendix format has been fully realised (and once we figure out how to create links that take people not just to the appendix page, but the proper portion of it.)

      From the perspective of adding the link later, I figured it would be easier to spot and identify minor characters if there was no link.

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    • Ok, Thanks, I guess if this is a mess mangled due to improper moves from other users, I will go back and check every character once I have them all moved. If you find anymore for now add
       [[Character Index|NAME]] 
      and I will go find if we have character already added or not from WhatLinkshere
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    • Works for me. Thanks for the heads up. I'll do that moving forward.

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  • Hello Nausiated. I talked to you a while back on Facebook to try and contact you, but per your request, I have moved my discussion to here. On the Ares main wiki article, you have posted a picture of him from comics circa 1950s. What is the source for that picture? I am currently writing a research paper regarding changes in comic book characters from classical sources throughout history, and I would like to know the source so I can source that image in my paper.

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  • I noticed that, regardless of the new guidelines page being drafted and ADour pushing for people to do this for so many years, a majority of new comic pages being added are not including synopses of the issue.

    For the sake of my sanity I decided to see if there was an already-accessible and easy way to view recently added synopses. Do we have a page that auto-generates such a list?

    Cheers and thanks

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    • I'm not entirely certain myself. I'd ask one of the more code savvy admins.

      (But I totally understand your frustration about comic pages lacking synopsis. It drives me batshit as well)

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  • When was Bruce Banner's dual identity as the Hulk first revealed to the world? By that I mean to the general public and not just amongst his supporting cast.

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    • Off the top of my head, I'm not sure. I think it was during the trial of the Hulk in Incredible Hulk #152-153, since it was the first time Banner had to stand trial for the actions of the Hulk. At least publication wise. I'm sure there are a number of "flashback" stories where they went a little fast and loose on who knew what and when.

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    • Oh ok. I ask because Immortal Hulk #4 had a flashback showing a news report about the Hulk's identity being outed. Seeing as the issue was written by Al Ewing I thought it was referencing a specific moment.

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    • I just took a look at that issue myself. On the one hand, the first part of the flashback adds on the flashbacks from Incredible Hulk #313 and Alpha Flight #11 that recount the time that Walter Langkowski and Bruce Banner went to school together. The flashback where Langkowski is watching the newsflash about Banner being outed as the Hulk is pretty general.

      However, given the context, it bears some more examination. Langkowski was first seen as Sasquatch during the 1979 publication year (or Year Five of the Modern Age) The trial of the Hulk happened in 1972 (or Year Four) so it doesn't make sense that Langkowski would go from Football to atomic science, graduate from university, and then become Sasquatch in under a year...

      That said, I suspect that the public outing happened sometime after Tales to Astonish #77. In that story, Rick tells Glenn Talbot that Bruce Banner was the Hulk because he thought Banner was dead at the time. That happened in 1966 (or year two), that gives a tight 3 years for Langkowski to change his area of study and get the position to become Sasquatch. However, it fits best. One could assume that Walter really pushed himself to succeed.

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  • I just wanted to say thank you for all the work you've done on the Spider-Man page synopses! :) It's great to see so many detailed synopses being written when a lot of comic are lacking them. Your work is super appreciated and you're great!

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  • I accidentally put Hanna Barbara Godzilla in the Godzilla (Earth-616)/Gallery

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  • So, I know that you're kind of a Hulk expert, and I had a question. I don't know if this was covered in a comic or not, but what do you call Hulk's personality where he's the savage green version, but he can speak an think intelligently? I'm not talking about The Professor, or just before he went to the Secret Wars when Nightmare messed with him. I'm referring to when he was on Sakarr, and when he attacked Earth in Planet Hulk and World War Hulk, and all his early 60s appearances when he was smart. Thanks.

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    • That is a good question! When it comes to the Hulk, they were always wishy-washy on his mental capacity until the 1970s when they made him a dumb brute. The way the handbooks explain it, at least as far as the early green Hulk stories circa Incredible Hulk #2 onward, was that the green Hulk was kind of had the grey Hulk's mentality at the time but that eventually faded away. Later on, when he used the gamma activator to turn into the Hulk, he was partially Hulk, partially Banner.

      As far as Planet Skaar, I believe his intelligence there was due to exposure to the wormhole he passed through to get there.

      The thing about the Hulk is that his mentality has always been like a psychological soup. The inconsistencies are usually explained away by whatever triggered his transformation, what Banner's psychological state was at the time, how much radiation he may have absorbed (if that was a trigger) that caused him to turn into the Hulk.

      At the end of the day, the Hulk has always been inconsistent in mentality, intelligence, speaking ability. The only versions of the Hulk that were ever consistent were the grey Hulk and the Professor. I think the best explanation of this was from Incredible Hulk Vol 2 where they explained that Banner's mind is so fractured that every incarnation of the Hulk is a different personality. There are some versions that come out more frequently, but there are variants the pop up from time to time.

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    • Ok, thanks a lot. I've read a ton of Hulk comics, and often times, like Incredible Hulk #469 - #474, he was savage, and intelligent, and I thought I'd missed something. Same thing happened in Incredible Hulk Vol 2 when he was fighting Mindless Ones on Monster Island. Thanks for the help.

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  • Would you be so kind as to delete this “blog” and rebuke the author appropriately. Thank you.

    http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:IAmTheMaster96/Who_dies

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  • Hello,

    I am writing you on behalf of the trans community and LGBT fans of Marvel everywhere. On a recent browse of the Marvel wiki I noticed a page titled "Transvestites" [link: http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Transvestites] and, fearing the worst, clicked. I do not know how widely this is known outside of the trans community, but the term "transvestite" is considered decades out of date at best and horribly offensive at worst. This wiki has previously replaced the offensive (though highly used) term "G*psy" in favor of the correct and less pejorative "romani"; I would ask that the same be done for this category.

    The argument may arise that "transvestite" and transgender refer to two different things, with the former referring to "cross-dressers" or drag kings/queens. I disagree with this on several counts. As a trans woman I have been referred to as a "transvestite" by bigots on multiple occasions, while the people I have known that are involved in drag never use it. The word strongly implies the "dirty man-in-a-dress" stereotypes that are all-too-commonly thrown against trans women.

    Even accepting "transvestite" to mean "cross-dresser", however, presents its own complications. Besides the highly transphobic connotations, the placement of the category under "Gender/Sexual minorities" does not make sense in this light (as even a straight cisgender man can wear a dress, etc). Additionally, there is no qualifier for what defines "cross-dressing", as clothing does not itself have a gender and as many characters have been put in drag for the sake of (admittedly transphobic) jokes. This makes the category extremely subjective and not of much practical use.

    I have been a huge Marvel fan from a young age and I greatly appreciate the work that this wiki does; it was this very wiki that recently prompted me to properly sit down and read comics for the first time since I was a child. I believe that all Marvel fans, regardless of gender identity, should have the opportunity to have fun reading about the characters we all love without seeing slurs targeted against them.

    Thank you for reading this letter, and I hope that you will take this plea to heart and remove this category for the reasons outlined above.

    - A trans Marvel fan

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    • Hi,

      Sorry for the late response. Looks like one of the other admins set the page for deletion before I had a chance to deal with the issue myself.

      I can understand that the term is deemed as hurtful and seeing it on our site could be hurtful and upsetting. Please accept our apologies. We want people from all walks of life to feel comfortable visiting our site and making contributions. With the rapid change in societal sensibilities in these turbulant yet progressive times, we need to keep up. That said, I'd like to think our community is open to everyone regardless of who they are and how they identify. I think for the most part any used of offensive terms is likely due to ignorance, lack of awareness, or misunderstanding. I don't think anyone who regularly contributes to this site is intent on singling out one group of individuals out of hatred. Truly and openly bigoted people are usually rooted out and banned pretty quickly around here.

      I concur that the term is incredibly outdated and the offensive term, by today's standards it shouldn't be listed as a category. I was looking at the creation history and it looks like the page was created back in 2013. The individual who created the page is multilingual, however as I understand it, English was not his strong suit at the time, so the intent was not intended to be hateful.

      That said, I think the term should not be used as part of the writing style of this Wiki to identified transgendered individuals. The only exception being addressing when the term is used in the comics and only to point out that is a dated term and why it's no longer acceptable to use such a descriptor, or if there was a narrative point of using such as the use of an offensive term to make a point on why it is such.

      For example, in the 1940s there were a handful of African-American characters that are considered incredibly racist by today's (Whitewash Jones and Slow Motion Jones being the two prime examples) Even though Marvel has since revived the characters in a more respectful manner, we list their early offending appearances because even though they are presently offensive, they have a historical context that reflected the sensibilities of the time and they are presented and explain in a way that readers understand that those depictions are considered inappropriate now.

      Another example is Uncanny X-Men #196 which features a scene where Kitty Pryde uses the N-Word to demonstrate how hateful the term "Mutie" is to mutants.

      That said, some years ago I wrote an article about these kinds of issues. Focusing more on race than gender identity and sexual orientation. Primarily since I was researching a lot of comic books from the 1940s that were rife with offensive depictions of different nationalities. You can check out that page here and feel free to add anything you like.

      As we are an open source community, please feel free to edit any articles that may contain these dated terms. The Wiki has been around for over a decade so I'm sure that there may be less informed appellations that may be lurking. I am certain that any such terminology wasn't added to be hateful but rather was out of ignorance and lack of awareness during a period of time where these issues were not commonly discussed in the mainstream.

      In the event you can't make any changes because a page is locked please let myself or one of the other admins look into it and we'll see what we can do. Our admin team is a very open-minded group who try to keep up with the current social sensibilities and move forward with the times.

      I sincerely apologize for any negative feelings that the use of this term may have caused you. Even if it was unintentional, an apology is still due and we hope you will accept ours.

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  • It makes it impossible to edit other items. Why is this necessary?

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