Contents 1 Source Needed 2 Age? 3 After Return to Earth? 4 NOT Neo 5 Figured it out!

Source NeededEdit

The main reason for Colossus and Kitty breaking up was due to Jim Shooter disapproving of their age differences.--Stature 04:08, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi just a query, seeming as she kept herself and the breakworld bullet in an intangible state for so long, does this mean that she doesn't need to breathe or eat whilst phasing? Cronokinetic 20:02, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I think that is being discussed right now in Uncanny X-Men.. --Johnnybravo⁴⁴ (talk) 21:05, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

Age? Edit

How old is Kitty supposed to be now? EJA 21:29, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Don't think it's been clearly stated in a while, but since she was seen in college in the X-Treme X-Men series (and elsewhere), it's likely she's in her early-to-mid 20s (unless she got into college at a younger age, but since most of the New Mutants seem to be in their 20s, and she's around their age...20s is the most likely age).

--GrnMarvl14 21:54, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Well she was 13 and a half when she first appeared. So if she's in her early 20s as of current stories, that must mean that it's been around 10 years or so since she joined the X-Men, by Marvel Time reckoning. Most sources state that it's only been about 13-14 years since the formation of the FF and the modern era in the Marvel universe, so by that logic, she'd be more like 18. EJA 22:10, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Which is a possibility (though Joe Quesada stated a few years back that it had been 15 years since the FF's formation). Like I said, she could have gotten in earlier than most (I say "could have", because I honestly don't know if it was ever stated. May have been, and I've just never read it), which would make 18 about right. But, keep in mind, Marvel time isn't compressed uniformly. Many more events have been snuck in-between the 60s stories than any other area. The passage of time is a tough call to make.

--GrnMarvl14 22:39, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Grn's earlier statement. She was supposed to be on the New Mutants team, until she impressed the Professor. They stated that she was closer in age with all of the New Mutants and I remember, when Sam Guthrie had first joined the X-Men, that Cannonball and Wolverine had a race in the woods and after Cannonball won, they went to a bar. At the bar, the bartender stated that he wasn't legal and Logan insisted. In a more recent New Mutants, while the team was ordered to vacation, after the Second Coming, Dani told the team that they were adults now and the entire team got wasted on beer that Cannonball provided. I doubt that is 18 and, while it might not be late 20's, I believe that puts Kitty and the New Mutants somewhere closer to 21.

--Wazzirving 16:40, June 26, 2011 (UTC)wazzirving

Kitty is slightly older than most of the New Mutants. She was just 13 in X-Men vol. 1 #129, she was 'not quite 15' in UXM #178. I think that's the last explicit reference to her age. Claremont considers her not-quite-18 in Mechanix, iirc, but she'd had a sexual relation with Pete Wisdom in Excalibur at that point, so, uh, buh? My best guess is she's 22-24 and the New Mutants are mostly in the 18-22 ballpark. (I believe Dani is the same age as Kitty, in theory). Of course, this makes Colossus 27-29, and Scott Summers like 35, so if that's all ok with you... =) --Squirrelloid 20:44, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Dani Moonstar and Sam Guthrie are older than Kitty Pryde. Sam said so in Excalibur #8, when she returned to the destroyed mansion and started to verbally scold the New Mutants.

--Wazzirving 21:22, June 1, 2011 (UTC)wazzirving

Huh, i thought Dani was ~15 circa New Mutants #1, which would make her about the same age as Kitty. (Or I suppose slightly older, since Kitty would shortly after be said to be 'not quite 15'). I didn't remember Sam as being older. Need to go reread my Excalibur, clearly. Dani could've been 16, i suppose. Anyway, i'd bet on Kitty being mid-20s at this point, so Dani and Sam would be 23-25. (Note: to get all the historical New Mutants to 21+, Rahne Sinclaire is the youngest iirc. She's certainly at least a year younger than Kitty, more probably 2 or 3, but i don't actually remember how old she's supposed to be in New Mutants #1.) --Squirrelloid 19:39, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Character ages in the Marvel-verse are always fun to play with and discuss. It seems like Kitty is actually used as one of the main sources of scale for age within the Marvel timeline. From the online reading I've done, it implies that Kitty is about 22 right now. The New Mutants had a wide range of ages, with Xian being the oldest at 19 and Sunspot being the youngest at 13 (he turned 14 after joining the team). I found a website that figured a scale, using about 3.5 'reader years' for every 'comic year.' Using this scale, that would put Roberto (the youngest) as being just turning 21 when the series was re-launched in 2009, therefore making them all 'of age.' From all the comparisons I've tried with the 'Pryde-scale' presented, it makes a lot of sense.

http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?165165-Fun-with-character-ages-at-Marvel-Comics-using-the-Pryde-Scale

After Return to Earth? Edit

Okay, I added some headers and info on Post Second Coming, and Wolverine goes to Hell, as well as a couple other things. They were deleted. Why? Kitty has had plenty of adventures since 2010. Fish bowl helmet, for one. THIS IS SIMPORTANT STUFF THAT CANNOT BE MISSED! Why was it deleted? --ZTM1234 20:08, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

NOT Neo Edit

So since all Neo are gone, it's safe to put the rumor to rest that Shadowcat herself is not a member then, yes? --Johnnybravo⁴⁴ (talk) 03:26, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

neo. are you talking about the one form the matrix?Teddybearlover 13:12, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

People thought Shadowcat was a member of the Neo? Where'd that come from?

--GrnMarvl14 17:04, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

In X-Men Vol 2 #100-110 (somewhere in there) a flashback was shown of Kitty possibly being switched at birth with a Neo baby, or so I thought. --Johnnybravo⁴⁴ (talk) 17:08, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

I'd consider that a dropped plotline. For all their talk about being a new species, the just Neo looked like more of the same as far as mutants go.--Savageland 18:52, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

OK, according to uncannyxmen.net, it occured in X-Men Declassified #1. I don't have the issue that I know of (or I can't find it if I do have it), so if any of ya'll do, could you look it up please? --Johnnybravo⁴⁴ (talk) 19:52, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

I got it. Here is the page in question. Apparently the disembodied head of Bastion was using stolen computer files about the X-Men to generate holographic images to stop Wolverine, Shadowcat, and Gambit from stealing the actual files. Most of the scenes in the book (including this one) are in the "It never really happened...or did it?" category. I say it is bogus.

Curiously enough, the profile page on Kitty shows her looking a lot like she does in X-Men Forever, despite the fact that this book predates it by about nine years. Now I just need to decide whether to add Kitty and the Neo to the image subjects list....

Artful Dodger 21:29, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Keep in mind who wrote both books: Chris Claremont. I know he was responsible for Cyclops' X-Men Forever costume. I suspect he was involved in all of them. Likely liked that costume and wanted to use it again.

--GrnMarvl14 02:01, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

I hadn't read that comic since I bought it. Reading it again was a bizarre, trippy experience. No wonder people find it confusing...

Artful Dodger 02:56, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the upload too man!! Bizarre indeed.. nice to put it to rest though. --Johnnybravo⁴⁴ (talk) 16:38, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Figured it out! Edit

The user Songjin undid the edits I made, so I undid that, but only added the Second Coming section. Please do not undo this section, thank you. --⚜ZTM¹²³⁴ (talk)⚜ 22:15, June 27, 2011 (UTC)

Do we really need to know that she was seen waving? Yeah, it's a big event, but if her sole role was waving...that's not really worth a section.

--GrnMarvl14 01:57, June 28, 2011 (UTC)

It's not worth mentioning in the article.--Savageland 04:22, June 28, 2011 (UTC)