Talk:Henry McCoy (Earth-616)
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Strenght level
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Hey. Just wondering if anyone knows the source info for Beast's strength level at 30 tons or so. This is the first place I've seen it at that level and I'm kind of curious. It's not a disagreement. Just curious. Thanks.
Dan
- I've consulted Gamer's Handbook of the Marvel Universe (1988) from TSR's Marvel Super Heroes Role-Playing Game. This source specifies Hank McCoy's strenght as Remarkable (30) on the league of Captain America (Steve Rogers), or Nighthawk. The description of the level is Peak human: He is able to lift/press up to roughly 800 lbs (= 320 kg). (The previous level is possesses the normal human strength of a man of his age, height, and build who engages in intensive regular exercise and the following level is lift up to 20 tons) Maybe my source is obsolete. - Skippy Farlstendoiro 07:39, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- His feline form does seem stronger than his ape form. --Lollerkeet 09:51, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
He's a freak?
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I don't know about you but, I would think looking like an ape or a cat might kinda look cool. Also I say if Nova is correct and he is devolving, he's putting cat's and apes to a whole new level in smarts! And please if these are just kid thoughts somebody tell me. MutantKingMagneto
Golden Armed Boy
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Where does this nickname come from? Can anyone cite an issue? Is it from his football days?MaGnUs
Beast's looks
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Ok, so I get questions about once every six months about Beast's transformation, and I always reference this page. I'd rather reference here referencing there, so I'm sticking a quote from that page here for reference.
— Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 05:05, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
When did the Beast turn blue and furry? Wasn't he unfurry again for a while? When did he become a lion?
The Beast's normal form isn't fuzzy. Up until the cancellation of the original X-Men series, he looked like a human with an ape-like body: no fur, but big, elongated arms, hands, and feet. He had the same powers as he does now: strength and agility.
Then, in Amazing Adventures #11 (1972), the Beast got a job at the Brand Corporation, a subsidiary of Marvel's evil megacorporation, Roxxon. He was researching the "genetic source" of mutations (the X-factor), and isolated a hormone that would activate the X-factor. In typical comic book timing, as soon as the Beast discovered this wonderful hormone, the sinister Secret Empire tried to steal it from him. So Hank McCoy did what any award-winning researcher would do with his potentially Nobel-prize-winning experiment: he drank it.
The resultant enhancement of his mutant nature turned him into his now famous fuzzy form, but with grey fur, and with a healing factor that would shame Wolverine--bullet holes healed as fast as they were made. Various misadventures ensued, until the computer Quasimodo drained the Beast's excess life energy in Amazing Adventures #14, which left him not only without his nifty healing factor, but also turned his fur blue.
He stayed that way all the way through his service in the Avengers and Defenders until X-Factor was inaugurated. In their second issue, a story was started which brought the Beast back to Brand, where much the same sort of process left him back the way he was in the first X-Men series. During the Fall of the Mutants he was infected by Pestilence (X-Factor #19), resulting in a biochemical imbalance that increased his strength each time he used it with a corresponding decrease in his intelligence. A kiss from Infectia ( #31) turned him back blue and fuzzy again, this time with near-Hulk level strength (X-Factor #33).
Beast eventually lost most of that superstrength, and was back in his "normal," highly agile, slightly-superstrong blue fuzzball form until his lion-like form debuted in New X-Men #114. This was confusing, since he was appearing in his normal form in the first issues of X-Treme X-Men at the same time. However, in X-Treme X-Men #3, Sage first saw Beast's potential mutated form. Just pretend that the events of New X-Men occur after all of Beast's growing pains.
Secret Avengers picture
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While that picture is great in terms of depicting Beast in his most current (or upcoming) costume and looks, I believe that having the whole quote and Secret Avengers logo around it is not good for a main profile picture. Anyone mind if I edit it? MaGnUs 21:09, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
- If you wish.--Max 21:11, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
- I was actually thinking the same thing.. --Johnnybravo44 21:21, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, couldn't wait. Feel free to edit it further...
- — Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 04:35, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
- Cool guys, thanks for being impatient. MaGnUs 16:31, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
One of the More Tragic X-Men?
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i had been out of reading comics for a LONG time and decided to check in on my old "pals"... needless to say, i was a little surprised to find a feline Beast. now, is it just me, or does it seem like the writers just can't think of anything nice to do to poor ol' Hank?
- "hey! let's make him grow fur. that way he won't have such a subtle abnormality."
- "hey! let's take the fur back, but only for a bit to build his hope up."
- "hey! let's dumb him down; a bit we could even give'im a love interest that is endeared by "slow Hank"."
- "hey! let's bring the fur and intelligence, but make the "new" Hank less attractive to his love interest."
- "hey! let's have him meet his evil twin (and be tortured by said twin), so that he could see what sort of twisted creep he could have become if things were just a little different."
- "hey! he's probably come to terms with his current freak status, let's bump it up a notch so that the previous love interest will leave (again) because she can't handle the difference (again).
now, i'm not completely caught up, so did i miss anything?
as an aside: i don't care much for Cat-Beast. anyone else?
p.s.- please let me know if this should have been placed somewhere else.
Steranko 11:19, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
- This is the perfect place for it!
- I came into liking Beast pretty late, he was already blue and furry when I got to know him, and when he made the lion transition, I was too excited about the prospect of secondary mutations to really care what it did to the characters. As it stands, I don't have a preference one way or the other anymore. :)
- — Nathan (Peteparker) (Earth-1218) (talk • contribs • email) 23:07, November 22, 2010 (UTC)