Thanks for the hint - unfortunately I don't have a copy of that collection, so I'd rather not try to alter this without first-hand data. Meaning, I'll probably try to get a copy. -Skippy Farlstendoiro (talk) 15:01, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
Another tidbit on this. As mentioned in the note's section of his page, Dave Cockrum has drawn himself into a number of his issues, meaning he likely could use a 616 page.
I haven't checked Iron Fist yet, but I understand X-Men 120 refers to an unnamed bearded guy in foreground, and X-Men 98 refers mostly to bystanders in New York (except for Stan & Jack, who have speaking parts).
This will require some research before going on, but it's an interesting activity. Skippy Farlstendoiro (talk) 17:30, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
I agree, thus: As soon as there is an alternate version of an author (like Jack Kirby (Earth-616) appearing in Fantastic Four Vol 1 "as himself"), the author can be moved to "Jack Kirby (Earth-1218)" to make place for a disambiguation page in "Jack Kirby" - which is what I just did with Mike Ploog and intend to do now with Steve Gerber and Val Mayerik - three characters in Man-Thing (film) were purposedly named after these authors. I'll hold my horses about changing the pages of Marvel staff until there's an agreement about this, of course. Skippy Farlstendoiro (talk) 18:09, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
I see it this way: If I look for Termite, there was only one Termite in the Marvel canon, no alternate versions or weird stuff, so Termite redirects to him. If there are several characters using the same name, either in different universes or not, I think the main page should be the disambig. If you want to look for Mike Ploog (Earth-58460), or for "all the Mike Ploogs in the multiverse", there should be a way to find them.
I agree with you that we shouldn't change the page for, say, author Carl Potts - unless we need to differentiate him from another Carl Potts appearing as a character in a story or movie. However, I insist there are precedents born from a real need like these pages: Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Fred Hembeck... Remember when Dr. Doom kidnapped Stan & Jack? When John Byrne attended to Reed Richards' trial? We should have "John Byrne (Earth-616)".
Of course, IMHO. This is why we are sensibly discussing this and I'm not changing any other author page. I never thought it would be a big deal, but now that I've seen it, let's reach an agreement. Skippy Farlstendoiro (talk) 18:29, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with what you are saying. This is the first time I've noticed you doing it and I thought perhaps you were thinking "Gee, wouldn't it be cool to add 1218 to all the staff pages" which seems unnecessary to me.
OK then. I understand we can safely move only those authors who have namesakes in other universe to same name plus Earth-1218, applied to Mike Ploog - and to KalKent's suggestion for Sol Brodsky per What If? #11. No-one wants to change Carl Potts to Carl Potts (Earth-1218) for there's no need in his case, and I won't change my login to Skippy Farlstendoiro (Earth-1218). Thank you Darkseid01 and KalKent for this very interesting debate. Skippy Farlstendoiro (talk) 19:15, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
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OK then. I understand we can safely move only those authors who have namesakes in other universe to same name plus Earth-1218, applied to Mike Ploog - and to KalKent's suggestion for Sol Brodsky per What If? #11. No-one wants to change Carl Potts to Carl Potts (Earth-1218) for there's no need in his case, and I won't change my login to Skippy Farlstendoiro (Earth-1218). Thank you Darkseid01 and KalKent for this very interesting debate. Skippy Farlstendoiro (talk) 19:15, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
Ok I guess, but many creators have appeared in issues somewhere and some sort of disambig would be a good idea. (Where does 1218 designation come from?)
And we will have to create desambig pages for the creators of Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe, because an alternate reality version of them appeared in the final issue, when they were about to be killed by Deadpool, in revenge for creating him, because previously in the mini-series Deadpool realized he was a work of fiction along the rest of the Marvel Universe, killing all of them. It's hard to explain.
Fumnov - Yes, I know a number of creators have appeared in the stories, sometimes as an inner joke and sometimes in a more active role. I think all these appearances would lead to that creators' Earth-616 version's article (or whatever universe it is), plus disambig page. E.g., Bobi Chase's cameo in She-Hulk Vol 2 means that Chase exists in Earth-616 (at least as Shulkie's vision or something).
Yep, ADour, that's exactly the kind of situation I was talking about. -- Skippy Farlstendoiro (talk) 20:55, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
And just to point out, 1218 is the ACTUAL designation given by Marvel themselves (in the letters page for New Exiles #3).
And even in the Marvel Universe (616) compared to our own, there are some differences when it comes to Marvel Staff, such as Jack Kirby is shown to still be alive (apparently) in Fantastic Four #584.
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I heed to your will oh Lord Darkseid01. Let's look for someone other target. Ling McPherson? Igron maybe? Skippy Farlstendoiro (talk) 18:14, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
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