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Artful Dodger

Please watch your language in the blog posts. I have removed your post where you are cursing. No, the asterisks don't fool anyone.

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02:27, August 4, 2012

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  AskaniSon

  ok, sorry

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  07:01, August 4, 2012

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Nitsuj77

I believe people should be able to have a good time in marvel. I mean there is hardly anything you can do, I mean you can talk to an admin or Jamie but what are they going to do. Except for tell them to stop then if they don't, they can ban the user for being a user and not breaking any rules. If a child picks their nose in front of you, and it is annoying you, what are you going to do? Tell him to stop? What if he doesn't stop? Call the police? No. He is not breaking the law! They aren't breaking any rules.

THEIR NOT BREAKING ANY RULES SO DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!

Sincerely, J

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05:45, August 2, 2012

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  AskaniSon

  if trolling isn't annoying I don't no where we are. this is a public community where everyone may come and contribute. but if they are just going to keep making new accounts and pretending to be characters that don't do anything good to the community I think they should be kicked. If they want to have fun they may but respect the others

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  19:35, August 2, 2012

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  Nitsuj77

  Community. A place where people can get together and be themselves by also abiding to the laws of the community.

  http://marvel.wikia.com/Marvel_Database:Guidelines

  On the other hand I do see your point. To you it is very annoying and you don't like to wade through all this crap in the soapbox to get to a blog you want to comment on/read. Still there is valid information contained inside of their blogs.

  Sincerely, J

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  22:48, August 2, 2012

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  AskaniSon

  what's valid here: Spider man 616

  ghost spider

  ghost spider

  spiderman

  ultimate deadpool

  this are some examples. why don't they use the marvel fannon wikia for this?

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  21:29, August 3, 2012

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  Nitsuj77

  You are right, to an extent. I think we shouldn't be so drastic as to kick them from our site if they are willing to cut back on their "need" to pretend to be their favorite character. If we kick them we will be setting a bad example for other wikis for, other wikis will will begin kicking users everyday because they are annoying to someone else.

  Another thing, fannons are places where people go because they are unwanted in bigger wikis such as ours, to pretend. Our wiki can't be all business, it takes away all of the fun of wikis.

  Now think about it from a viewers perspective. Say you needed to get some information on cyclops in an X-Men comic you were reading, because you simply didn't understand cyclop's origin. You wouldn't take the time and go out of you'r way to read a bunch of blogs and reviews, you would key in cyclops in our search engine. What I'm saying is that blogs aren't super significant to many viewers. From that perspective, lets focus on the pages.

  That is not my perspective, I love blogs and they are extremely important to me. What I'm trying to get through to you is that don't just go kicking people, for it can have consequences.

  Sincerely, J

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  23:20, August 3, 2012

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  Artful Dodger

  You are correct when you say that our main site is a reference source for people who are interested in Marvel. However, those same people will very likely look at blog posts also.

  If people see threads talking about favorite characters or costume changes or movies, I'm sure they would like to read people's opinions. However, if all they read are blog posts saying, "I'm the real so-and-so-character and I am awesome", how is that a helpful thing? This problem only gets worse when people type insults or curse or threaten others or call them names.

  We hold ourselves to a very high standard here. There are hundreds of other sites where people can post whatever they feel like. This site is NOT one of those places.

  As for the consequences of kicking out annoying people, we are fine with having the whole Wikia community and the whole Internet understand that we do not tolerate annoying people. We would love for this to be a site where people say, "I know if I go there, I will not find annoying people".

  Stop saying that these people are not breaking rules or hurting anyone. They are wasting users' time, they are wasting administrators' time, they are cluttering up the site, and they are adding nothing useful.

  Decide for yourself if you want to be a user who helps make this site a great place or a terrible place. We will watch your posts to see which kind you choose to be.

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  03:02, August 4, 2012

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  Nitsuj77

  I am not saying that these kinds of people are not annoying. That was not my point whatsoever throughout all of my posts. If you choose to kick these people that mess around, just please, allow them one warning. If you will allow it to be I will give them the warning myself. You have more influence over more users than I do so these users may benefit more from an authoritative figure.

  I also would like to recognize that this site does not have any guidelines saying how far can it be taken when it comes to fooling around. If I'm Wrong please correct me throughout any of this post.

  Also, please do not affiliate me with users who have needless posts. In almost every post I make I have never associated my self with any character, place, event, etc. in Marvel. I try to make my posts helpful to this site.

  I would like to close this message by saying, this site is a wonderful place for so many different things, such as pages for almost every marvel character to date, blogs, pictures and so much more. In times past I have proved myself to be a helpful user by creating the chat fest every Saturday, many helpful posts, and 2 fair blog posts.

  Sincerely, J

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  05:01, August 4, 2012

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  Artful Dodger

  It would be fantastic if you would warn users yourself. You are a user of this site and a contributor to this site. You have every right to use the site the way it was intended and not be annoyed by people who are just here to mess around. You are well within your rights to tell other people to follow the rules and policies here.

  I am an administrator here, but I am not the teacher, the boss, or the dad. I am a user just like you. I have an extra set of tools, but the influence belongs to all of us. It is much more powerful when users come together to stand up for their site rather than having an administrator run around banning people. I only want to block people if they refuse to cooperate.

  Of all the people I have spoken to in the last week, I only had to ban four of them. The rest of them agreed to clean up their language, post things that are more interesting, etc. You are right; this is a community, not a dictatorship.

  I think that the Marvel_Database:Guidelines do address this in the section called “Stay on Topic”. It clearly states our goals and that we are Marvel focused (hint, hint, Frank West…). Do we need more specific rules than that? Do we really have to make a rule that says, “Don’t be annoying”? I would hope that people would see the effect that their pointless posts are having on the community and they would change their behavior on their own.

  See…this is the way blog posts are supposed to work; good conversation between users.

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  13:06, August 5, 2012

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  AskaniSon

  yes, indeed!

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  17:05, August 5, 2012

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  Nitsuj77

  I do plan to allow them a warning, because that is what makes sense to me. That is if people are doing things wrong they deserve a warning first.

  Other than that I can now see the point from where you are coming from.

  Sincerely, J

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  18:48, August 5, 2012

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  Artful Dodger

  I really glad we got this straightened out and I would very much appreciate your help in patrolling the site and warning users who need it. Thanks again!

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  19:57, August 5, 2012

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